The Chat

November 4th, 2015 — November 14th, 2015


Roundhouse Theatre


James Brennan & LA BOITE INDIE


Created by James Brennan & David Woods
Dramaturg Ashley Dyer

Set Designer

Alex Davis

Lighting Designer

Alex Davis

About the play:

Created by ex-parole officer and performance maker James Brennan and the acclaimed David Woods of the UK's Ridiculusmus. How and when should people be forgiven for their crimes? Who gets to decide? What happens if they get it wrong? The Chat brings ex- offenders, parole officers, criminologists and academics together with some of Australia's wildest performance makers to come to grips with these questions.

The structured one-on-one parole interview will be taken, subverted, transformed and reborn as an innovative performance score that compels audiences to consider the complex nature of what they are seeing - interrogation, anthropological study, confessional. How are the lives of those convicted of crime assessed, recorded and in what ways does this determine their systemic value?

The Australian Review:

A peculiar form of intimacy lies at the heart of interactions between parole officer and prisoner.

Characterised by a shifting set of secrets and lies, the relationship bears raw, transformative potential but is typically pockmarked by power struggles and constraints imposed by respective sets of rules.

It’s into this strange, intimate space that The Chat unfolds at Brisbane La Boite’s Roundhouse Theatre. Created by former parole officer James Brennan, The Chat casts former criminal offenders into new roles as performers.

Staged in a simulated interview room complete with CCTV footage, The Chat gathers steam after a physical fight for dominance between performer David Woods and ex-prisoner Mark Flewell-Smith.

It employs role reversals as part of a process of “transpersonalisation”, a term Brennan says was invented for this production. In order to confront himself and his crimes, Flewell-Smith assumes the role of parole officer, and Woods that of the pot-smoking offender who faces a return to prison after failing a drug test.

“This is your third dirty urine,” scolds a bearded, tattooed, Flewell-Smith, peering fiercely over the top of his reading glasses. “What do I have to do to save your arse?” Woods’s audacious response — he’d engaged only in passive smoking during a party and had “tried very hard not to breathe it in” — had the audience choking with laughter. As a former parole officer, I was laughing harder than most, because Woods’s attempts to explain himself were so reminiscent of the blame externalisation (“bullshit”, as Flewell-Smith calls it) I heard most days.

The same shock of recognition had me laughing, aching and close to tears at other points during the one-hour performance. The Chat skilfully captures the impossibly fine line parole officers must tread.

You must empathise with a person’s difficult circumstances, and believe that he or she has the capacity to change. You also need to cultivate cynicism. One of my offenders tearfully ascribed his latest crime spree to the death of his wife. Imagine, then, when I rang to reschedule an appointment and she answered the phone.

The Chat is thought-provoking and sometimes uncomfortable to watch. Its great strengths are the weaving of levity and light into dark subject matter and the dissolution of barriers between offenders and others in the community.

“All of us have committed a crime,” the opening narrative goes. “Some of us have served time … and others have gotten away with it.”

The Chat, La Boite, Brisbane, until November 14. Denise Cullen is a Brisbane writer who worked as a case manager with Queensland Corrective Services (Probation and Parole) in 2013-14.




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